TELECOM Digest     Thu, 15 Sep 94 15:25:00 CDT    Volume 14 : Issue 367

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    First Northwest Internet Business Conference (Internet Group)
    New NACN Systems in NY With Voicemail; Some Bugs (Douglas Reuben)
    AT&T "You Will" Ads on Internet (Andrew B. Myers)
    NYNEX Makes You Dial '1' For Same Area-Code Calls (Sanjiv Narayan)
    Cellphones and Smoke Alarms (John R. Covert)
    Looking For DTMF to Ascii Encoding Schemes (Goh Tiong Hwee)
    Old Western Electric/Telephone Items for Sale (Russ Pate)

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From: igi@halcyon.com (Internet Group)
Subject: First Northwest Internet Business Conference
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 02:58:49 -0800
Organization: Internet Group


THE INTERNET WAY OF BUSINESS

At last the business conference like no other ... 
learning to sell services and products via the global Internet.

The Internet Way of Business will be an overview for entrepreneurs
seeking a clear, forthright presentation on commercial use of the most
powerful information and communications tool in the world -- the
Internet.

September  21, 1994                      8:30 am to 3:30 pm
Shoreline Community College              Free parking
16101   Greenwood Avenue North           Check-in : 7:45               
Seattle,  Washington   98133   USA       Lunch  12:30 pm
     
Sponsors:  
Internet Group, Inc.    Microsoft         Digital Equipment     G.T.E.  
Corporate Computer,Inc  Northwest Nexus   NovX Systems Integration    
Ballard Computer        KUOW  94.9 FM     Puget Sound Business Journal  
Shoreline College Foundation 
       

Participants will join other professionals and executives to
        
*  grasp the Internet as a strategic business tool
*  witness local firms creating revenues on the Internet       
*  reach  beyond boundaries to a new customer base 
*  observe Internet technology applied in daily commerce
*  conduct toll-free intercontinental business research     
*  recognize Seattle as the port of Internet  trade 
*  clarify  pending telecommunications  legislative issues  
*  win software, services, books, and other prizes      
*  locate Internet training consultants and facilities
*  find ways to reduce their communications overhead
*  learn why their enterprises may be Internet ready  

Presented by Internet Group, Inc.       
POST:           93 Pike Street,  Suite 308   Seattle, WA 98101   USA
E-MAIL:         igi@halcyon.com   
GOPHER:         gopher.seattle.wa.us
TEL:            206.236.9559  or 206.780.2245  
FAX:            206.842.6974 

SEATTLE AREA LODGING
Ramada Inn (North Seattle, off  hwy.I-5) 2140 N. Northgate Way;
Rates $86-99;Tel 1.800.228.2828 or 206.365.0700

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Tel 1.206.728.7000;

Mayflower Park (downtown Seattle) 4th & Olive Way;Rate $100-110;
Tel 1.800.426.5100
 
Stouffer Madison (downtown Seattle) 515 Madison; Rates $119-164;
Tel 1.800.468.3571

 --------------COPY & E-MAIL REGISTRATION----------------

THE INTERNET WAY OF BUSINESS   September 21, 1994   Seattle, Washington  USA
        
Name__________________________Title_______________Company___________________
Address_____________________________________________________________________
Nature of  Business_________________________________________________________
Telephone_____________________________FAX___________________________________ 
E-Mail________________________________
Names of additional attendees:
________________________________________________
Size of company  (Check one) : __1-10 __10-50  __50-100  __100-200   __ 200+

FOR RESERVATIONS:   
CALL:   (206) 236-9559     or     (206)  780-2245    FAX (206) 842-6974
MAIL :  INTERNET GROUP,INC.,   93 Pike St., Suite 308,   Seattle, WA  98101

Fee: $125 per person (lunch included).      After Sept. 14, fee $150.
 Payment for each attendee required with reservation. Total paid  $_________
  ____Check enclosed, payble to  Internet Group, Inc.      
  ____Charge to credit card  Name on Card :_________________  Exp. date ______
  ____MasterCard___VisaCard #__ __ __ __  __ __ __ __  __ __ __ __  __ __ __ _

Refunds are only applicable to cancellations received in writing by 9/14/94.  


THE INTERNET WAY OF BUSINESS:    

FEATURED SPEAKERS:


Bret Arsenault  Architecture Engineer, Microsoft
Mr. Arsenault's extensive knowledge of multiple operating systems and
networking technologies accounts for his strategic role in assisting
Microsoft in their overall enterprise networking strategy.
        
Bruce Chapman   President, Discovery Institute
Mr. Chapman's long career in public life has included service as
director of the U.S. Census Bureau, Ambassador to the United Nations
Organizations in Vienna, Austria, and head of the White House Office
of Planning and Evaluation.
        
Doug Dix        Publisher,  Communicating
As a former Bell Labs communications expert, Mr. Dix's early Internet
experience was with the original ARPANET.  Communicating is published
bi-monthly for the Puget Sound region.
        
Herb Effron     President,  Seagopher Inc.
After a military and defense career,Mr. Effron currently seeks to
enable the Seattle public and commercial interests successful access
to Internet communications.
        
Rex B. Hughes   VP Marketing,  Corporate Computer Inc.
Specializing in systems and market integration for premier northwest
firms, Mr. Hughes has keen interest in showing US businesses how to
re-define themselves for a worldwide Internet presence.
        
Stan Kopec, Jr. Network Consultant, Network Integration 
Digital Equipment Corp. (DEC) 
With twelve years of LAN/WAN networking experience Mr. Kopec currently
delivers presales consulting to Digital's clients.
        
Jenni Livingston      Product Manager Business Network Services,  G.T.E.
Ms. Livingston is responsible for strategy development and implementation 
of GTE's Internet programs.  She was a featured speaker at Spring
Internet World '94 and Interop '93.
        
Ed Morin        Founder & President, Northwest Nexus 
Mr. Morin directs the full service Internet connectivity of Northwest
Nexus, a major regional Internet provider.  He has administered
network infrastructure for major corporations such as Motorola, McCaw,
Tektronix, and University of Washington.
        
Bob Rican       G.T.E., Network Technologies Solutions Consultant
An EE consultant currently assisting GTE sales force with planning
long range technology solutions, Mr. Rican brings broad experience
within the Northwest telecommunications industry.
        
Martin  Rood    CEO, Rood Nissan Volvo
Mr. Rood has established Dealernet on the Internet for automobile
dealers to provide information about products and services to present
and potential customers.
        
Tom Rose        Senior Applications Engineer, G.T.E. Northwest
As an applications engineer Rose works in support of all GTE
consultants.  With 25 years experience, he develops vital technical
solutions for major GTE projects.
        
Walter Taucher  President, Corporate Computer Inc.
Mr. Taucher designed and implemented the largest Microsoft LAN Manager
(district wide Internet) for Issaquah School District.  His company
built and managed the network infrastructure for the 1992 Goodwill
Games, Seattle.
        
Dr. John G. West, Jr.   Senior Fellow, Discovery Institute
Director of educational programs at Discovery Institute, Dr. West
heads Discovery's program on religion, liberty, and civic life.
        
Stuart White     President, NovX Systems Integration
Mr. White, former domestic account manager for Perot Systems, directs
one of the first national integrator, NOVX, a subsidiary of Spry, Inc.
        
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From: dreuben@netcom.com (Cid Technologies)
Subject: New NACN Systems in NY With Voicemail; Some Bugs
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 03:02:37 PDT


I just got finished in a recent TELECOM Digest submission noting how
there were still problems with the NACN in terms of turning on and off
Call Delivery via *350/*35 and how this would not be necessary if
roaming calls bounced to voicemail, and the VERY next day I find two
new systems on the NACN which seem to do this!

I noticed that the Cellular One of Upstate NY (01513) and Cell
One/Orange County, NY (00479, a Vanguard Cellular Property) are now on
the NACN!  Cell One/NY and other NACN customers can now get call
delivery in these two areas automatically. These two systems mainly
cover the Western side of the Hudson River from the CO/NY (00025)
system to the hick Catskills (01515) system just below McCaw Cell
One/Albany (00063) system. There is a good deal of spillover to the
Eastern side of the Hudson, into the Cell One/Dutchess County system,
particularly north of Poughkeepsie.

The Cell One of Upstate NY (01513) system is located in Kingston, NY,
about 25 miles north of Poughkeepsie and on the western side of the
river.  It's coverage extends pretty far west and covers the New York
State Thruway (I-87) from south of where the Catskills system leaves
off to where the Orange County system begins (I think Cell One/Dutches
may bleed in a bit between the two). It also comes in on the east of
the river immediately north of Poughkeepsie. This system has all the
standard McCaw recordings with the standard male voice, and all switch
codes begin with "KI", and in "KI-32", etc. (Is it a McCaw system, or
a recently acquired one? I don't remember the same switch messages
from a month or two ago ...)

The Cell One/Orange County (00479) system as starts just north of
where the CO/NY (00025) system leaves off, in a line running more or
less along US-6, near Bear Mountain, all the way north until the
Catskills (01515) system. (01515 is a little hick system which for the
longest time didn't have Nationlink/Roam America, and basically sat on
Thruway/US-9 corridor roamer traffic. CO/NY customers don't get
Nationlink anyhow, but I would have used it with my other accounts
until the equally lousy "B" side (Valley Cellular, 01516) got
Follow-Me-Roaming, which they recently did, thankfully! But of course
no connection with NYNEX's auto-call delivery network, God-forbid! ;)
). I didn't notice the McCaw switch recordings on the Orange County
system, although they may also have them.

All features work VERY nicely in both systems -- they are truly
seamless, and you would be hard-pressed if you didn't know the SIDs to
tell that you weren't in the NY/00025 system! (They don't seem to be
Ericssons as far as I can tell, and no clicks, so not a Motorola EMX;
maybe some Northern Telecoms?) Call-delivery is instant: once you
register your calls come up to you immediately. Call-Waiting works
very nicely, and there isn't that IS-41 RevA problem where if you get
two calls within a minute or so the second one gets bounced right to
voicemail (as happens with Philly which is connected via IS-41 RevA).
The call-waiting tones are slightly different -- two short
Motorola-like beeps, but much faster and more "clean" sounding.
Call-Forwarding is also excellent, and response time, like the rest of
the NACN is immediate.  (Well, almost , see below...)

BUT the best part -- which solves something I've been complaining
about for a long time -- is that unanswered calls WILL go back to
voicemail!  This also includes unanswered Call-Waiting calls, which is
something new to me. (In ComCast, the only other system(s) on the NACN
which I know of that do this, the new EMX 7.2 software they have been
trying out in conjunction with IS-41 RevA will NOT let a call-wait
bounce back to voicemail, which can be annoying if you are on an
important call and don't want to interrupt it to answer the
call-waiting/second call.) I tired this extensively in both systems
and it works VERY well. Thus, if you take your phone and roam on
either system, it will function in EVERY WAY the same as it would in
your home NACN market, which in my opinion is a very important and
productive step forward!

So finally Cell One/NY is catching up with NYNEX, which has had its
(pathetically slow and awkward) version of call-delivery set up for a
long time, especially to Orange County. It is now possible to drive up
from Wilmington, DE to NYC and then up the Thruway all the way to
Albany and get automatic call delivery and all your features AND
unanswered calls bounce back to voicemail! (Well, some things like
Call Waiting still don't work south on NYC, but as soon as ComCast
puts in EMX generic 7.2 [when?] this should be fixed. In addition,
unanswered calls while in Albany will NOT bounce back to voicemail,
unless things have changed since last month.). There is of course that
gap at the Catskills system where nothing will work, but other than
that you are pretty much covered all the way!

As to the bugs:

1. The Upstate 01513 system hasn't put in the correct confirmation
codes: Each time you enter a feature-code (sorry for the EMX lingo :)
) like *71,*72,*350, etc, you get a "KI-32" error code, yet your home
NACN switch will respond and obey whatever command you issued. IE, it
just SEEMS like your command wasn't processed, when in fact it was.

2. The amount of ring time is a BIT too short. I don't mind it too
much -- I usually answer on the first ring or so, but normally you get
five carphone rings (what you in the car hear) before it bounces to
voicemail.  In the two systems here, there are usually only four. Not
a big deal, it just may take getting used to.

3. The *350/*35 codes aren't EXACTLY immediate. I'm noticing a
one-minute or so lag time between issuing the command and having
call-delivery turned "on" or "off". This is NOT a big issue here since
you don't really need to use the feature: As I noted above, calls DO
bounce back to voicemail, so I doubt many people will use it. (As if
many people use *350/*35 anyhow.. :( )

4. The most notable "bug" seems to involve registration back in your
home system. I tried this three times, ie, register in the Orange
County/00479 system and then come back to the NY/00025 system and see
if I get calls.

Each time, I didn't, and calls were STILL being sent up to the Orange
County system even though I was in the NY/00025 system. I even placed
a call to 611 (Customer Service), and then called myself while on
hold, and got Call-Waited just fine. However, any call placed to me
when I was not actually on CO/NY's air STILL went up to Orange County.
I tried *35, and all this did was force calls to voicemail and then
after I turned delivery back on calls went right back to Orange
County.

I recall a similar problem with cross-Long Island Sound registrations
between the NY and the Rhode Island (00119) system, and having a
similar problem. For some reason, the Home Location Register (?) seems
to lose track of you, and you stay registered in the last system you
were roaming in even though you came back to NY and registered and
even forced a registration by placing a call! This was also a frequent
problem a few months ago if you were caught roaming in Philly or DE at
the same time CO/NY was doing switch work back home. You'd get back to
NY, but no matter what you could not get calls -- they would all go
down to Philly and then bounce over to your voicemail (unless you were
ON the phone in NY, in which case for the duration of the call you
could get calls via Call-Waiting).

An easy way to correct this is to turn your phone completely off for
at least ten minutes, and then power back up again. You should then be
correctly registered in the NY system and be able to receive calls
normally. This is a bit awkward, however, and it would be nice if they
could work on this so that the above procedure is not necessary in the
future. (The CO/NY system was having trouble this weekend, so I may
have been caught in Orange County during system work in NY, I dunno.
This may no longer happen once the problems are cleared away in NY.)

I assume roaming charges are standard NACN: no daily, 99 cents per
minute at all times. However, it would be in CO/NY's interest to add
the 00479 system to its "Extended Home Rate" area, as it already has
done with the non-call delivery (yet..) US Cellular/Poughkeepsie
(00503) market. NYNEX gives its customers a slight discount in their
Orange County (00404) system.

Anyhow, overall, a VERY impressive addition to the NACN. I'm glad to
see that McCaw and I have similar interests in terms of total-
seamlessness, especially when it comes to unanswered calls bouncing to
voicemail. Now let's see if they can get their software upgraded so
that they can do this on the NACN's Ericssons! :) (I've been told that
the software for either the Ericsson or the SS7 links between them
won't currently allow for this, yet Cantel does it within Canada and
non-SS7 (?)  linked Ericssons, such as NY<->Newton, NJ seem to do this
just fine, so why can't whatever software be upgraded so all non-DOJ
constrained NACN sites do this as well?)

BTW, I think ALL of Vanguard is going on to the NACN. I was driving
over the I-95 Havre deGrace bridge where you pick up the Harrisburg
system for a second it IT responded to *350 with a confirmation tone!
So many other systems (DE 00123, PA 00029 and DC/Baltimore 00013) mesh
with each other there that it was hard to tell what was going on,
though. I'll try out the Vanguard properties in northeastern PA
(00103, the old "Vanguard/Cellular One Supersystem") and see if they
are on the NACN as well. Maybe I'll stop at Havre deGrace on the way
down to DC next time and see if Harrisburg is on the NACN if I can get
a clear signal.


Doug Reuben  dreuben@netcom.com / CID Technologies / (203) 499 - 5221

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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 94 15:10:08 EDT
From: myers@hogpa.ho.att.com (Andrew B Myers)
Subject: AT&T "You Will" Ads on Internet


AT&T YOU WILL ADS ON INTERNET; USERS CAN ENTER SWEEPSTAKES

     NEW YORK, Sept. 14, 1994 -- AT&T's YOU WILL(SM) ad campaign,
which has captured the nation's attention in magazines, and on TV and
radio for the past two years, has a new home in cyberspace.  It's
called "youwill.com."

     The YOU WILL campaign, created by N W Ayer, New York, is now
appearing on the Internet, where users not only can watch and listen
to the award-winning ads on their computers, but also look at AT&T
products, locate nearby AT&T Phone Centers and enter a sweepstakes to
win a trip and prizes.

     Featuring the voice of actor Tom Selleck, the YOU WILL campaign
takes a whimsical look into the near-future when information
technologies now being developed at AT&T will soon enhance the way
people work, live and play.

     For instance, have you ever renewed your drivers license at an
ATM?  Have you ever studied with a classmate thousands of miles away?
Have you ever installed a phone on your wrist?  "You will," say the
ads, as they dramatize what technology can do for you.  The various
capabilities in the YOU WILL campaign are based on actual technologies
under development by AT&T.

     The new AT&T Internet site was created by Adam Curry, formerly of MTV,
now an independent producer and head of OnRamp, Inc., a New York-based
agency.

     Internet "surfers" can access the youwill.com site directly
through the Internet's most user-friendly multimedia resource, the
World Wide Web (http://youwill.com/), via the popular Metaverse site
(http://metaverse.com/) and through several well-known "What's New"
lists, including:

 o Stanford University's Yahoo Net Lists:  Commercial Contests
   (http://akebono.stanford.edu/yahoo/Economy/Business/Corporations/Contests)

 o Commercial Services on the Net (http://tns-
   www.lcs.mit.edu/commerce/whatsnew.html)

 o Yellow Pages of Internet Commercial Sites
   (http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/DataSources/bySubject/Yellow/Overview.html)

 o Global On-Line Directory (http://www.cityscape.co.uk/cgi-
   bin/srch2html?type=Any&Field=Business&Location=Any)

     Sweepstakes winners will be selected in a random drawing from
among all entrants received either via the Internet or by mail.  A
drawing will be held on Oct. 3 by MediaAmerica Promotions, Inc., an
independent judging organization.

     The grand prize is a five-day, four-night trip for two to
experience the Chameleon motion-based activity simulator in a U.S.
location to be determined at a later date.  The trip includes
round-trip air transportation, ground transfers, first class hotel
accommodations and local sightseeing, as well as the virtual reality
ride (total value approximately $4,000).

     AT&T YOU WILL T-shirts will also be awarded in 31 daily
sweepstakes drawings.

     Odds of winning will depend on the number of entrants.  Since the
site was set up Aug. 31 on the Internet, where news travels quickly,
more than 30,000 Internet users have stopped by to check out
youwill.com.

     Users looking for a nearby AT&T Phone Center supply their area
code and are presented with a list of stores in their area.  The site
also provides descriptions and full color images of five popular AT&T
consumer products, including a Speakerphone 870, a Digital Answering
System Speakerphone 1545, a Mobile Cellular Telephone 3050, a Cordless
Telephone 9100 and a Digital Cordless Telephone 9120.

     AT&T's corporate YOU WILL campaign broke last year and was
extremely successful in showcasing the information superhighway and
branding AT&T as a technologically innovative company.  In addition to
raising awareness for AT&T technologies, it was named one of the top
25 commercials of 1993 by consumers in a survey by Video Storyboard
Testing, and so far has won two ADDYs, the first annual David Ogilvy
Award for the most effective campaign supported by research, and the
1994 PCIA (Personal Communications Industry Award).

                                 #   #   #
CONTACTS:
   Andrew Myers - AT&T, 908-221-2737 (office), 908-522-9485 (home)
   Kevin Tedesco - Ayer, 212-474-6003 (office), 908-654-7325 (home)

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From: Sanjiv Narayan <narayan@thoth.ICS.UCI.EDU>
Subject: NYNEX Makes You Dial '1' For Same Area-Code Calls
Date: 15 Sep 1994 12:27:37 -0700
Organization: UC Irvine Department of ICS


I have noticed a strange thing here since I became a NYNEX customer in
Marlboro, MA. They have a local calling area (approximatly five mile
radius) within which I can place unlimited calls for a flat charge.

However if I call a number outside my local calling area (but still **
within ** my 508 area-code), a recording asks you to redial with a '1'
prefixed before the seven-digit number I am calling.

Here's my question: If the NYNEX switching equipment is smart enough
to figure out that I need to dial a '1', why does it not go ahead and
complete the call anyway. I am willing to pay for the call regardless
of whether I redial with a '1' prefix or they complete it for me,
right !!?

It becomes very cumbersome when you have to redial the number with the
'1' prefixed. I never had a similar problem with Pacific Bell in So.
California. The only time a '1' was required was when I dialed a
number in another area code. If a number was outside your local
calling area, Pacific Bell simply billed you for it.  No redialing was
ever required.

The NYNEX customer service person I spoke to simply said that is
the way things are set up.

Anybody know why NYNEX will not complete a call outside my local
calling area (but within the same area code), unless I dial a '1'.


Sanjiv Narayan   Viewlogic Systems Inc.   Marlboro MA 

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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 94 17:41:56 EDT
From: John R. Covert <covert@covert.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Cellphones and Smoke Alarms


So here I am, sitting in a waiting room, and my pocket rings.

So I answer the phone and step out into the hallway to talk to the
caller.  It's some idiot looking for Jim Covert and wondering if I
know him.  I don't.

Fire alarm goes off and I head for the door.  While I'm outside,
various doctors come out to look and see if they can see smoke, and
ask me if I've seen any.  Not many people come out; apparently the
building has a lot of trouble with false alarms.

I take a look at the alarm annunciator, and it indicates the hallway I
was in when the alarm went off.  Hmmmmm.

Concord firemen arrive, and I ask them, as they're getting out of the
truck, if they have ever known a cellular phone to set off a smoke
detector.  They say, "No, but it's an interesting theory."  We head
for the hallway indicated by the annunciator, and note that the red
LED is blinking on the smoke alarm right where I was standing.


john

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From: thgoh@iss.nus.sg (Goh Tiong Hwee)
Subject: Looking For DTMF to Ascii Encoding Schemes
Date: 15 Sep 1994 08:35:09 GMT
Organization: Institute Of Systems Science, National University Of Singapore.


Hi,

I am looking for pushbutton phone (DTMF) to alphanumeric conversion
schemes used for say alhpanumeric pagers.

For example to transmit "A" press "*2", "B" press "02" , "C" - "#2"
and so on.  My phone has the letters "ABC" above 2, "DEF" above 3 and
so on.  Dont know what happened to the "Z" though, can't find it
anywhere.  I need schemes for "A-Z", "0-9", end-of-line, space,
backspace.

What I am looking for are schemes already in use. Hence copies of
actual manuals or instruction sheets or pages of phone books would be
most helpful.  As I need the info urgently, I am willing to pay a
small amount for cost and trouble.  Please email me directly.  Thank
you for your kind attention.


TH Goh  


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Most voicemail systems use '1' for the
letters Q and Z.   PAT] 

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From: news@mlb.semi.harris.com
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 94 07:44:44 EDT
From: rmp@cica.mlb.semi.harris.com (Russ Pate)
Subject: Old Western Electric/Telephone Items for Sale
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 11:44:38 GMT
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne FL


Old Western Electric/Telegraph Items for Sale

Western Electric Tubes

Rare 1918 WE 215A "Peanut Tubes"

 1 New in original WE boxes, $25 each
 1 used , good filament, $15
 1 used, questionably good, $10
 1 socket for above, $10

9 pin tubes - $1.25 each or offer  

 10 X 417A, 7 in original WE boxes
 3  X 403A (6AK5)
 1  X 420A

Other Tubes

 1 WE 323B in Original WE Box $5

Telephone Operator's Breastplate/Headset

Old switchboard operator's breastplate/headset with neck straps, plugs
and cloth covered cords, well marked as Western Electric and never
used from the late 1930's I would expect.  $30 each for a complete
set.

I also have two floor-type switchboards that these would go with.
They are large and heavy and are $250 each, tough to ship.


Telegraph Keys

Several J-44 military keys:

 One Complete - $25
 Several Complete except for grip knob, $20 each.
 About 10 missing the entire lever assembly, but otherwise
 complete, $10 each. 

 Some of these military keys have a switch on them marked voice/code.

All prices plus postage/shipping

PS.  I also collect/restore old telephones.  I have a number of
candlestick, cradle and wall phones available for sale.  Send SASE for
list/brochure on old telephones or email inquiries: Some examples of
telephones currently for sale:

1924 Mongomery Ward oak wall phone, working with dial mounted inside - $285
1915 Kellogg all original, not modified to work, $300
1923 Black Automatic Electric dial Candlestick working, $300
1924 Western Electric 202 oval base desk cradlephone working $175

Please email or call collect with any old telephone items for sale (pre 1950).


Russ Pate, WB4VVN
235 Sandpine Road
Indialantic, FL 32903
(407) 777-1759
email - rmp@mlb.semi.harris.com

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